Overcome - A Mental Health Podcast

Letting Go to Level Up: Redefining Success and Self-Worth with Nicolette Nierras

Travis White | Mental Health Advocate Episode 26

In this eye-opening episode of Overcome: A Mental Health Podcast, host Travis White sits down with holistic coach and podcast host Nicolette Nierras to explore the deep connection between success, burnout, and self-worth.

After years of climbing the corporate ladder, Nicolette found herself checked out emotionally, spiritually, and mentally—despite having everything she thought would bring fulfillment. What followed was a journey through divorce, disillusionment, and ultimately rediscovery of her true self.

Nicolette opens up about shedding societal expectations, healing from imposter syndrome, and the powerful role of inner work in reclaiming self-worth. Her story is a reminder that true success isn’t about status—it’s about alignment, inner peace, and showing up for yourself authentically.

If you’ve ever questioned your value beyond your job title or struggled with self-doubt, this episode will speak to your soul.

What We Discuss:

  • Why self-worth often gets tied to career success and achievements
  • The emotional toll of living out of alignment with your true purpose
  • Nicolette’s journey from corporate burnout to holistic healing
  • How the loss of a job became a gateway to self-trust and self-worth
  • The impact of divorce, COVID, and isolation on identity and confidence
  • Imposter syndrome and how high achievers can rebuild inner belief
  • The mindset shift from fear and scarcity to love and abundance
  • What it means to live an abundant life rooted in self-worth
  • Practical ways to reconnect with your worth through action, not perfection
  • The power of community, coaching, and speaking up for mental health

If this episode helped you reflect on your own self-worth journey, please follow, rate, and share this podcast. Help us break the stigma and spark healing conversations. 

Learn More About Nicolette

Nicolette is a holistic lifestyle coach, hypnotherapist, and host of the Your Worthless podcast. Through deep inner work, intuitive coaching, and subconscious reprogramming, she empowers individuals to reclaim their self-worth, live with intention, and create a life rooted in purpose and peace.

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Travis White (00:01)
Hello and welcome to Overcome, a mental health podcast, a place where you can share your stories and we discuss all things mental health. I'm here today with Nick Nerris. Nick is the founder of Nick Nerris Holistic Lifestyle, a coaching platform dedicated to helping individuals achieve balance, success and inner peace through holistic methods. Nick, welcome to the show.

Nicolette (00:25)
Wow, Travis, thank you so much for having me and thank you for the wonderful introduction and saying hi to all of your listeners as well. ⁓

Travis White (00:30)
Yeah.

And

I think we're just going to go ahead and turn the time over to you and have you share your story.

Nicolette (00:42)
Okay. Well, okay, Travis. I don't know if you've read my profile, but to all of you listening to YouTube, Travis, I was the accountant. Okay. I was an overachiever since I was a kid. And my dad used to tell me this, knowledge is power, the key to changing your life is education. Therefore, although I cannot give you the richest in the world,

but what I can give you is de-education and it is up to you to do something with it. And so that's what I did and it came with good, both good and bad. Now, the good part is that it made me really strive to be the best that I could at school, but the bad thing was I tied my self-worth to the achievements or to the A's that I could get.

And don't get me wrong, we have this reward system where I get a certain number of A's and my dad would give me something. that is a good push or motivation for me to do better. But then I brought that with me to my working world and that did not serve me well because imagine having this mindset since I was a kid thinking that,

If only I could work this much, like I give 110%, I would definitely get back 110%, no questions asked. But as we all know, life is not linear that way. So I left school at seven, I left home at 17 and so I pursued my tertiary education. I went to university and at the time I really wanted to go and earn, you know, my own money.

get the bag as early as I could. So I entered the workforce at 19 in the corporate world and I started making my way up the corporate ladder. for the last, so between 19 to 30, I saw myself climbing up. But in between that, there were a lot of things that happened. So mind you, when I was growing up, I had this, I had my whole life planned out at least until I was 30. But then after that, I,

thought that life stops at 30 and then it kind of plateaus like that, but it's not. So for me, because coming from that accounting background, you've always wanted to take into account all the risk involved, basically try to plan out and calculate those things. And so I said, okay, I wanted to hit this amount of money, get this

get this at least, you know, whatever, the car that I wanted, the house that I wanted, at least by a certain age. And I did, I was checking off all the boxes. But then what I ignored was my true self. How did I know that?

when I was 26. So I fell in love and got married to my then ex-husband, to my now ex-husband. And I thought that, okay, by 30, I should be settled. I should have kids. I should have my, you know, great job, great car and everything, all the material possessions. And I got married when I was 27. And then things did not

pan out, at least in the relationship part. And we decided to part ways two years after. And that's when I really started thinking that, okay, this is actually, life is actually harder than I thought. I thought if you just work and probably jump companies, you know, you naturally you'll get the increment, you'd get the position, you'd get more exposure.

Yes, it is like that, but then it is not as simple as that. And so going into that with this mindset of, okay, if I want it, I got it. And this is the first time the universe is showing me, okay, Nick, life, you know, you don't get what you want all the time. And in the love department, I thought I failed. So I shifted my focus entirely to the thing that I, you know, do the best, is

Travis White (04:51)
you

Nicolette (05:08)
studying and working. And I did not process the grief with the loss of the relationship. And I went straight into working mode and at the time COVID happened. So as it had impacted me, I'm sure it has impacted so many people around the world, that period forced me to sit with myself and really process all the feelings that I suppressed before. And those feelings were, who am I?

if I am not loved, why do I feel worthless? Because you've given your heart and soul to somebody, you devoted and then things did not work out. Then of course you're gonna start questioning your beliefs. And at the same time, it was at the height of my career, COVID happened, things started falling apart at my work too. And I said, okay, that's when I...

I lost my self-identity because I used to tie myself to these achievements that I've gotten before. Now that I don't have this anymore, I don't feel fulfilled, I don't feel like I have a sense of control over the outcome of my life, I started questioning who Nicolette was. And that actually started my whole journey of looking within, spiritually going into

astrology, astronomy, Jungian psychology, everything, pharaoh reading. And I was just trying to grasp in the dark, like who is Nicolette and what would Nicolette look like in the next phase of her life. To be honest, I really didn't know that I could get myself out of that pit, that black hole. And in 2021, that was the first time

I came across this post by Mindvalley. It is a hypnotherapy course, Rapid Transmissional Therapy by Marisa Peer. And then I saw the power of subconscious reprogramming. So whatever beliefs that you have today, the feeling of wordlessness that you feel that you're not good enough, you're not lovable enough, was actually tied to something that you have absorbed probably growing up.

or somewhere along the lines of you pursuing something that may not be aligned to your true purpose. And in 2021, I saw it, but I hesitated because being in corporate, would I, why am I considering this? And it was, to me at the time, was a waste of time because that means slowing down. Now, if you're so used to grinding and churning

trying to turn, you know, trying to get the productivity score up. And I equated that to just working, working, The whole point of just being still so that you can rest and recharge so you can, you know, bounce further. It just didn't make sense to me. And so I stopped. I waited again. Two years after that, I saw the exact

same post but then between 2021 to 2023 things did not get better. It got worse. So I said okay, give me something. was asking God like give me something. What is this? And so I saw the same post again two years after that and it was of course the price was definitely much higher than before. The real reason why I had to know reconsider the first time when I saw it because

that means paying for another course which is so much more it was expensive and why would I do that you know I've already attained this accountancy and membership you know and and going pivoting to another direction it's just it doesn't it's just senseless and so when I saw the the same post

I was like, okay, I'm going to take this as a sign from the universe. And so I did, I signed up when I saw it. And then at the time, because the work was really, the work that I had at that job, it was really great in terms of the payment, the payout. But then my self-worth was like really battered because there was just, just everything was just wrong in my

the eyes of my bosses and it's like every time I try to do something, okay, I blame myself for not being able to deliver and then, you know, in hindsight, it is actually everybody's just processing their own internal, these are all projections. And when I realized that, I remember saying, okay, let me give this a try. I'm gonna do it as a side hustle first, which is this hypnotherapy.

And, but how do I convince people if I cannot even convince myself that I can, that people would actually pay me to help them with their issues. And that's what got me into podcasting. What am I so good at? What, what is natural to me that I don't need to, that it doesn't have to feel like work. And it was talking that, that came very natural to me.

And so I said, okay, what's the freeway? What's the fastest way that I could get my voice out there or just reconnect with people? And that's podcasting. so I started the first podcast. So I signed up. I set up for the course in February, 2023. In June, 2023, I started my first podcast. And to my surprise, there were a lot of people resonating with that message, the title event.

And then I started saying to myself, okay, maybe there's something here. People want to hear what I want to say, what I had to say. And I could actually talk to somebody halfway across the world and they would be telling me their own stories and say, okay, let me do this. And at the time I was juggling my full-time job, studying and at the same time, podcasting. And so when you are...

really invested in something that you like and it feels effortless to you. All the other avenues you'd sort of like let go, especially with me. know I'm driven if it lights up my soul and what lights up my soul, which is talking. And my work started taking a backseat and the podcasting was like taking charge and the studies, I was like putting it on the back burner until 2024 last year.

The company had a restructure and they officially eliminated my role. And so I was laid off. And I was at the tail end of my studies and it was like sort of a wake up call from the universe saying, okay, enough is enough. You are here to do what you need to do. And therefore I, you don't want to leave. I'm going to take this away from you. And it's been one year now between then and now.

I made some big changes, made some big moves in my life and here we are, Travis.

Travis White (12:26)
That's, yeah, it's, and you've had, as you were speaking, a couple thoughts came into my mind. First, I feel like, at least in the United States, we're taught that the corporate lifestyle is the way we should go. We're taught like from a young age that we should basically be sitting in a desk, be doing what we're told, and not to really, sometimes, I don't know if this is the right way of saying it, but I think you'll get what I'm saying.

not to always think for ourselves, and then they put all this pressure on us. And I think that's where that kind of self-worth, of posture syndrome type stuff of not being able to perform kind of comes into play.

Nicolette (13:04)
And it's been indoctrinated since we were kids. Now, I was pretty privileged in a way that I got exposed to the Western culture since I was very young. And so unknowingly, I too took the belief that, okay, this is the way forward. This is if I want to be quote unquote rich, this is the only way.

And it took a toll on me, on my mental health. And it's like Nicolette, I had to lose Nicolette. It's like I lost my sense of self first. And then just realizing that was the first step into really uncovering who I am and what am I here on earth to do. And it's a tough process, Travis. I wouldn't, it's easy.

It's easy in a sense that okay, you know you need to peel off the layers that you've sort of put in yourself, the society has put in you, your parents and whatnot. But the fact that because you're so, you're buried like deep down in all those beliefs and for you to climb out of that, it takes a lot of courage and bravery, honestly. Yeah.

Travis White (14:21)
Yeah,

yeah, it sure does. I don't want to speak too negatively of the corporate world right now because I'm still in it. still, right now, for like, yeah, no. No, no, no, no, yeah, yeah. But no, I get what you're saying, like trying to find yourself. And why do you think that...

Nicolette (14:29)
I I don't know if I'm not, I'm not saying like, ⁓ X bye bye to corporate world forever, Nicolette, because yeah.

Travis White (14:43)
so many like high achieving individuals like suffer from issues with self-worth.

Nicolette (14:51)
Okay, I'm gonna connect this to imposter syndrome, I would say. So everybody is out there to become better, at least. Okay? In some way, shape or form. Now, people in corporate world, if in this context, naturally you wanna move up the ladder, you wanna, you know, bring...

Travis White (14:58)
Okay.

Nicolette (15:17)
bring the bag home, bring the bacon home and with that comes more responsibility. So, heavy is the... What was the phrase? Heavy is the head who wears the crown, right? Now, if you are not certain with yourself, like who you are, so say Nicolette, if I want to join the corporate world again, now...

I have to come in if I don't shed all the limiting, all the beliefs that I had before that all my, I'm only going to be important or deemed to be important if I could provide or if I could achieve a certain status in the eyes of my family members, for example, or my friends. Now, what does that mean? It means that you are basically worried about the perception of others towards you.

And if you first are impacted by the way that other people are viewing you, that means the movements you're going to make, the decisions you're going to make are going to be based on them, not on your true self. Now, okay, we can see this from so many angles. So if, let's say, if you are a breadwinner, of course, naturally, this is what you want to do because you want to

support the family right but what I'm trying to say here is that when you are pursuing something in life your job or your business or a hobby okay a hobby is less stress because you know a hobby is a hobby it's where you it's an outlet for you to to let your creativity just flow but in terms of whatever that you're pursuing in life

I want people to ask themselves, is this bringing me closer to my highest self? And what does highest self mean? Highest self means if your nervous system is not feeling safe, if you are anxious about anything, when you're about to have, let's say, okay, I just saw this

movie just a couple of days back and there's this guy so he's out he loves traveling but he also has to work nine to five hours while he's traveling and his boss is just constantly hounding him okay I need the keep did you get the KPI that you know your task to do

You can tell that he actually wants to enjoy himself during the trip but at the same time there's this pushback from the boss saying okay I need you to take down this key deal at a let's say at a resort but that that key deal actually goes against his values so for example he he loves okay if I'm just gonna be honest

Travis White (18:11)
Thank

Nicolette (18:12)
This is a, let's say it's a place where you can serve nature, okay? Marine conservation center. And so the boss is asking you to the closing Marine down. Now, if it clashes with your values, I have to ask you, are you going to stand up for what you think is right? Or are you going to go ahead and support your boss with that decision? Now you have to decide, right? What is

Travis White (18:19)
and

Mm-hmm.

Nicolette (18:40)
for the highest good.

So what are you gonna do Travis?

Travis White (18:44)
Me, I want to say I would stand up for what I think is right, like what I believe in.

Nicolette (18:49)
Right.

Right. And people listening to us, they're probably going to say, it's easy for Nick to say because, what happens if I get fired if I don't do that? Naturally, okay. Okay. I know this is very reckless to say. Then let it be. I don't want you to do that. But first, I want you to find out. Ask your boss, hey, this is not the right way. I think we should.

find another way to do it, find another avenues to do it, partner with the Marine or the center, whatever. And then, and see it and discuss with them, go to the board and present what are your ideas. Now, if you still get pushed back, you'll know it's your nervous system is gonna say to you, this is not serving, you are not aligned and you need to go and do something about it. And the...

Key is in your hands, Travis. You either, to me, because I cannot stand injustice, okay? And I feel that if I could leave the world a much better place than how I came into it, that means I've already created a legacy, even if it means helping one person. And so, and how I do that,

How am I going to be, how do I make myself very comfortable that I can sleep better at night knowing that I have actually done what I'm meant to do. And that means standing up for what I believe is right. So the next step is finding out, strategizing what are you going to do next that, okay, you are not aligned with the values of your companies anymore. You need to find a new job, for example, or you need to find your own.

entrepreneurship ventures that you want to join. And most people in the working world right now in corporates, some are on a different journey. Some are thinking, some are, some are thinking to move. Some are stuck because of, you know, financial obligations and stuff. So I want to invite you to think about what are the next steps, the strategies that you can do or where you want to go first. Spend extra time.

finding out the things that you want to do most, see how you can monetize it. And we're so abundant in terms of information here. You have podcasts, you have YouTube, you have chat, you have, okay, we don't really, I don't really use Google now because I rely on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And so, so I don't want you come coming to, to me and saying that there is, I cannot make this happen.

Travis White (21:15)
I have same way.

Nicolette (21:26)
And that's why there are people like, you know, coaches and mentors out there that have actually lived the life that you want to live or they've made the decisions that you want to make in the future. They will be able to show you the way, show you the ropes. And the first step, think, Travis, is to just set your mindset right. Align your head and your head and your heart. Because if you're consciously thinking, and I'm not going to get

paid, how am going to support my family? That means you're thinking from here and that's the fear mindset. What's the opposite of that? Opposite of fear mindset is what? Love, right? Love mindset. And fear is equivalent to scarcity. Love is equivalent to abundance. There's always, everybody can have, you know, I call this, we all can have our own cake. We all have that pie. We can get a slice of that pie.

So if you're coming to me and saying that I'm joining, I'm going to join this industry, it's going to be totally different from what I did before, go do it. Go do your research. Do your research and then figure out the step by step. Now this could span between one year to five years even, but make it clear to yourself, make the decision, discuss with your significant other if you need to, and then take that step one by one.

So that is what I can give right now. mean, and then you said about the part where, why do people feel that their self-worth is tied to their achievements, right? It's because all this indoctrination since you were kids, and especially for men, men are not allowed to be vulnerable about their feelings. Men are not allowed to voice out because that

Travis White (23:07)
Mm-hmm.

Nicolette (23:19)
would seem that they are not masculine enough to carry the family through whatever challenges that they have. And men have feelings too. Men are humans. And the same goes for women. There's so many nuances that we could talk about, but at the moment, I feel the veil is being lifted. People are waking up to their true essence.

And I feel that you're going to see this happening in the next five to 10 years.

Travis White (23:51)
Yeah, I

can see that too. I think there's a lot of people kind of coming to like a light and being like, you know, I'm more than this. I can do way more with myself. And that's kind of a reason why I started my podcast is because one, I want to help people and I like to talk and I like to listen to other people's as well. But it's also like

Nicolette (24:08)
Mmm.

Travis White (24:20)
me trying to kind of better myself and actually kind of, I guess, get away from the corporate world. I don't want to say it too much because it's like, sorry. Yeah, I'm still in there. Yeah.

Nicolette (24:28)
Right? ⁓ Because you're still in there. You're still in there. Yes, yes.

But it's the crucial transitionary period that you're having right now. And it's like, you know that your soul is calling you to do this, but you're also aware that, you know, one of your, one foot is still in, one foot is still in there and one foot is already out.

Travis White (24:49)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Nicolette (24:56)
and you're just sort of testing the waters. But then I can tell you in the next one or two years, Travis, you're probably going to find this more enjoyable. It's not going to feel like, okay, I'm going to say it's not going to feel like work. The talking part is excellent. I love it too. But the work comes after that, the post-production. But then I said to myself, now, if I'm already giving 200 % at work and I know I'm good at that,

Imagine what I could do if I'm giving that back to my work that is serving the people that I actually want to serve.

Travis White (25:30)
Yeah,

I agree. I love it. And you spoke about, you know, instead of living out of fear, living out of love and having an abundant life, how do you define an abundant life? And how can people like begin aligning with living an abundant life?

Nicolette (25:33)
Right?

Abundance. Abundance, number one thing that comes into mind is money. Money is important. I love money. I'm not going to say that I don't love money. I love money, but the love of money is not right. Now, money is a tool for us to amplify. So money to me is just an amplification of who we really are. How much money you have in a bank account, one dollars or a million dollars. If you have that.

Travis White (25:58)
Mm-hmm.

Nicolette (26:19)
it's just going to amplify who you are. So if you're charitable, even if you have nothing, if you have $1 million, you're going to be more that if you have zero or $2 in the bank account, you're not good person. My chances are you're not going to be a good person when you have that money, right? So abundance to me, Travis, and I think

a lot more people are aligning to this definition is just number one, having inner peace with yourself wherever you are in the stages of your life. That means do you have...

How? Okay, so for example, if there are people around you say, I'll just take myself as an example. Now, I'm in this entrepreneurship journey for a year now. Not to say that it is a walk in the park. It's not rainbows and sunshine. I can tell you that there are days I'm so used to getting stable paycheck and it's not stable for me at the moment. One time I have...

One moment I have a client and another month I don't have and that means what? That means I have to adjust myself with the uncertainty. But the key thing here, Travis, do I let that affect my inner emotion? I don't. Yeah, I don't. So if I, if even if the world is in chaos, if my inner world is at peace with where I'm at and what I'm building towards,

I'm at peace with that. That is abundance already. Number one, you can sleep at night knowing that universe has got your back. You're supported. Now, I want to say to you, whatever you said, whatever it actually, the fact that I'm here right now, I've actually prayed for it before. Don't you think so? Where you are at the moment, I think you talking, setting up a podcast, somehow you prayed for it.

Somehow,

Travis White (28:24)
Yeah,

yeah, yeah, I'm a big believer in prayer and that I was like so yeah, I totally agree. Yeah

Nicolette (28:27)
Right. You prayed for it. Yeah,

exactly. And I want to expand on that. Prayer also means that you manifested somehow. And like I remember saying this to myself, I want to work hard so that I could actually have my own business. I didn't know what the own business is going to look like, but here I am having my own business. So

whatever that you say or whatever that comes up to mind actually universe is always hearing you and the more you cultivate the good in your head the abundance that you have the more the universe is going to present them to you and abundance is number one I have the roof over my head I still have food now I need I needed to make big changes so now I used to I used to live in the city

Kuala Lumpur, now I have to move back to my parents place. And I want to say to people out there, there's nothing wrong with that, okay? Because you're building yourself up, at least for me, I'm building myself up, I'm stabilizing my substance of my business, and I get to be with my family again. So I think the key is also to look for the silver lining amidst all the challenges that you have now. And if you really sit with yourself,

and really have a conversation with the universe, they're actually supporting you every step of the way. And for people saying, okay, now coming back to your question, how do they align with that? Number one, think energy is the most important currency. It's no longer money. Money is also an energy, right? But your own energy, the people that you allow

access to your energy field, your auric field is so important. And abundance means having great friends that shares the same frequency as you are. Being in the same community, talking to the same people. Have you ever noticed that when you feel like leveling up or you feel like your vibration is changing, your body is changing, automatically you want to be healthier, automatically you know how to discern

Which one is a good friend, which one is not a good friend? You become smarter, you've become sharper, and you become wiser. And now not to say that you're a bad friend, but then they just don't resonate with you anymore. And that is abundance too, because you're leveling up. And that means shedding your old life. That is abundance too, Travis. And as you inch closer towards your...

Travis White (30:46)
Yeah, I'm not a set, yeah.

Nicolette (31:08)
truest purpose, this would come naturally. and the more you are to the more you are, the closer you are to the light, the darker it would be. How? Okay, let me let me explain that because the dark is always you can see the light is the brightest when it's the darkest, right? The lighter you are, the bigger your opposition. And that's why people that's that's

you know, the activists, people that do not share the same values as them, they'll get a lot of pushback. But when you get a lot of pushback, you know, deep down that you're actually on the right path. And trust, I would say trust in the universe that trust in the process that you actually have got it. So the key to that is surrounding yourself. Be so strong internally.

and surrounding yourself with the right people is the key to being abundant.

Travis White (32:07)
I love it. I love it. So many good things that I get from here. I'm like, you know what? Now I need to find a way to implement this type of stuff in my life. I mean, could probably like with the people I've, you know, spoke to on this podcast, I can probably start writing a novel on all the different bits of information that I have. Yeah.

Nicolette (32:28)
Yes, exactly. Yes, and publish it.

Travis White (32:36)
So we've talked a little bit about imposter syndrome. Someone who's suffered from imposter syndrome or self-doubt for years, how do they start rebuilding trust in themselves?

Nicolette (32:50)
I love that. I love this topic. So let's start with defining what imposter syndrome is. Now imposter means a fake. It's imposter, right? So this could manifest in the sense or most cases this is manifested through you, through a keynote. For example, I always use, I love to use this analogy. For somebody who's actually a CEO, now from the outside world, my

God, people would think that he or she would have, she has no fear at all. But she has no fear at all. She must have gone through so many trials and tribulations to get to where she is now. And right now she's invincible. But the truth is, every time this person wakes up in the morning, he or she will still feel that same feeling. last month, last week she's talking, she's spoken to 5,000 people. This week she's gonna speak to another 10,000.

and then another 20,000 people. And for those attending, you're just going to be in awe like, my God, they're killing it. What did they do? But truth to be told, Travis, that same person is also human. They're going to have, they have, I can tell you, and I have it too, fears. Like I've spoken to, okay, not so many at the moment, I think less than 20 podcasts, guessting as a guess. I have that same jittery feeling every time I get up.

and talk to somebody new. And imposter means you're so scared that you are a fake. People will find out that you're a fake.

And that's what imposter means. And you start doubting, and this is so prevalent to all those high achievers because there's nobody around and there's nobody in their circle has actually done that. And for them, they need to be subjected to something so rigorous for them to be where they are. But actually they've already done it. They've passed all of that. They've shown their track records.

have actually shown them that they've actually earned this spot. Now, trusting themselves means, again, coming back to aligning your heart and your mind. Your heart says, okay.

what is the purpose that I'm doing at this point? If I know that I have a message that I need to tell people, share with people and help them, I'm gonna focus on that. I'm not gonna focus on the people who is gonna come up to me and say, Nick, you're gonna be talking to 10,000 people tomorrow, how are you feeling? okay, I feel okay. Even in the slightest moment, okay.

I would probably think at least some moments that, what if I feel this? What if people are going to find out that I'm a fake? But those are actually just chitter chatters from the projections of your old self that you feel that Nick is not cut out for this. And you have to prove and prove and prove that, you are actually enough. But truth of the matter is, Travis,

to begin with, you prepared for yourself. You prepared for this moment all your life. And the more you step into the, purpose, the more, the bigger the dark forces would be. I can say that. And these, if you just position yourself, put that into perspective in that way. The next thing is just to focus on your purpose and what are you trying to

What are you trying to say and deliver to the world? And then number two comes the application of it. mean, just your mindset is, okay, I'm gonna take them as just one person. This is how I deal with my imposter syndrome. I'm gonna take you as a person that I have a coffee chat with. Or in front, especially if I'm talking to a large crowd, this is just.

whatever projections that they have upon me and all the pushback that they have upon me is actually not me. I'm gonna deal with that with my level best at that point. But after that, okay, I'm not gonna equate things that I don't know. Say for example, I get ready, I'm 2000%, I'm so hyped up. But then comes one person in the audience saying, okay, Nick, how do we solve this? I don't know how. And you know.

This is one way imposter syndrome could show up for me. But then I would say confidently say, hey, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't have the answer to that right now. And that's also the key, being authentic. Showing people who you really are, which is you're a human. It's not possible to have all the answers to the question. Unless I'm AI, I'm half AI now, then probably I'd be able to do that. You can subject me to all sorts of scrutiny.

and interrogation if you want. But then at the end of the day, I'm still human and being compassionate to yourself that you're that. And number two is also, so confidence is not that you, it's not something that you earn. just, it's something that you take one step and then another step and then another step. That is how confidence is built.

Just look at you, Travis, I'm take you as an example. The first time you started a podcast and now I think your confidence had gotten better, right? Right? So, yeah, people.

Travis White (38:25)
yeah, it's 100 % increased. Sorry, I remember my

first episode, it was just bad.

Nicolette (38:37)
And we all had that too. I had that too.

And confidence is people like to glorify this word confidence and say, it's a destination that I need to get to. But actually it's not. It's the action that you take now. And it's the becoming. Becoming confident. It's a byproduct. And so I would urge people listening, tuning in today. Guys, you don't.

say how do I get more confident? The key is I'm going to tell you, I'm going to let you in on the secret, it's taking persistent, consistent action. And you can do that with yourself or learn from somebody online or get somebody to help you, be your guide, like a coach or a mentor. So yes.

Travis White (39:25)
And I will say that confidence is something that you have to continually work on to build up.

Nicolette (39:32)
Absolutely. It's a lifelong journey for confidence and tomorrow morning if I wake up, I hope so, I'm gonna still have this imposter syndrome but then I'm gonna know how to manage it better because I'm not gonna let that define me. I'm gonna trust myself that hey, I'm on this, I'm where I'm meant to be and I'm working towards that.

and understanding and accepting that I'm working or walking towards my life and therefore there are other people who will not be in the same path as me and some may support, some may not and I'm completely okay with that because everybody's on their own journey but I'm not gonna let that define who I am and let me lose sight of what I'm supposed to do. So yeah.

Travis White (40:21)
Yeah,

it's all good stuff. You've kind of been like on this transformation journey in the last few years, like between the corporate world and coaching. Has there like on that path, has there been any belief that you've had to let go to become the version of yourself that you are today?

Nicolette (40:44)
So many beliefs that I am not good enough to be provided for. am that I have to work X times hard to get to where I am to get something that I wish to and how and number three is Nicolette is not good enough to be speaking to people around the world.

Now I can tell you, I'm just, it's just been two years for me podcasting and just one year in as an entrepreneur. And I could tell you, you know, we pick up vibes very easily. can tell with somebody, people don't say it to your face, but then you can, you can sort of get the feeling from them. Like the, this hesitation or this, I don't want say disgust, but like them just projecting.

their insecurities like what is she doing? Who does she think she is? Or how, she's not gonna make it. Just to put it that way, she's not gonna make it. And I had to sit with that, with those beliefs, because I'm naturally very intuitive, so I'm very close to some of my friends and you can pick that up. Now I had to learn to discern whether it is my pro-

my feelings or their projection. That's what I need to, I need to really discern. And the key to that, to me discerning that is number one, coming back to what it is that I'm here to do. What sinks to my heart and that is helping people. Now I never knew that coaching would, could be a job. And again, I want to tell people out there it's not

I'll walk in the park. But it is something that I want to give back to the world. You sleep better when you give than receiving something. And the key to I saw this reel from Tony Robbins, he said, how do you attain happiness? He put it simply, whenever you do something for yourself,

It's not sustainable. When, but when you do for others and you wake up and you do things for others, that is what lights you up. That motivates you because you're serving more than yourself. And so for me, the beliefs that I had to believe was that even if I had to go against the world, against the community that I'm in right now, I know that I'm provided for and I'm protected and

That means showing up, understanding my worth first, that means sitting with myself, talking to my inner child, the little Nicolette and the future version of Nicolette and understanding aligning. All three of us would align ourselves and say, okay, this is where I want to be. Are you with me or not? Okay. And never let the chaos of the world to disrupt my peace. Once I

get that grounded and sorted, the next part is being authentic, showing up the way that I want to show up in this future version of myself. And number three, naturally, when you do that, you will be abundant. And this is why this is the framework that I have, the method that I have. And those are the beliefs I would say that I had to really come to terms with.

and reframe them so that it'll serve me instead of bring me down.

Travis White (44:10)
I really love the quote that you threw in there about the helping other people and how life is just better when you're helping somebody else and not just looking for yourself. that's part of why I do this is just to think that I could change the life of that one person. They might hear one podcast and be like, oh, well, you know what? That's what I needed to hear.

Nicolette (44:24)
Thanks.

Travis White (44:40)
It's going to push them to be better.

Nicolette (44:42)
Exactly, exactly. that achieving, yeah, I want to congratulate you too, Travis, for, you know, taking the leap to start the podcast yourself. I mean, even though at first you were, I'm sure you had all these feelings like, what would people think of me? And actually showing myself up to showing, I mean, showing my face to the social media, talking like, I'm sure you've had some things, some

Travis White (45:09)
Yeah.

Nicolette (45:10)
questions in your head or some beliefs that you had about yourself. And exactly, exactly. And you're here right now. You're 20 episodes in. And kudos, kudos, kudos. I just want to recognize you for your work.

Travis White (45:14)
There's been a lot of self-doubt for sure.

Thank you, thank you.

Thank you. And your podcast, remind the listeners what the name of your podcast is.

Nicolette (45:34)
Yeah, it is kind of unique. People thought it was a hysterical podcast. The name of the podcast is Your Worthless. that again. The juxtaposition of your very soul. The name, how it came about was just very simple. I felt myself. That was the narrative I had for a while, actually, especially since the divorce. I felt worthless, nothing. I felt like I was worth nothing at work. I was worth nothing in the love department.

I was worth nothing. And so that started my own journey. That's the question that I ask everybody and also my clients. I tell, I ask them, who are you without your job, without your titles, without your accomplishments or without your failures? Are you, if you have the heart of just feeding one stray cat, this, I know this is random, but that is who you are.

not because you have this failure of not being able to close a hundred thousand deal. No. I want you to remember that. Okay?

Travis White (46:43)
You know, thinking about that, I don't know if like a year ago I could have told people who I was without, I was that person stuck in a corporate job, know, dealing with like parenting at night, three young kids. But I feel like this last year for me has also kind of been a transformative time in my life to figure out who I am.

I'm realizing that after you've kind of said things.

Nicolette (47:11)
I'm glad that shed some light in your own journey too, Travis.

Travis White (47:16)
So this is one question pretty generalized that I ask every person on here that comes onto the show just because I like to hear the different feedback that I different answers I should say. What do you think is the biggest stigma related to mental health?

Nicolette (47:35)
that it should not be talked about.

and we're breaking that stigma right now. I just mentioned both men and women, all face this differently, but in some way, shape or form, they all face mental health. And I want to say there's so many avenues that people could go to just to talk.

what they're feeling. Now if you feel like you you lost your sense of direction it's okay it's it's just your old self shedding and people if they're caring enough if they care enough about themselves they would go online they would start listening to podcasts they were sad but if those listening to this right now that those are the very people that actually you you you

They actually love this. They're trying to find the grasping, grappling with who can actually help me or hear me out. So I want to tell other people to tuning in right now if you've seen somebody around your circle who's actually showing that, they're happy all the time. Number one.

they are probably not that happy. Just check in. And then the other group of people is they're sad. I think you should also check in. And make that a habit. Now, I too had to be discerning about the friends that I had to let go before. And that comes after that. So when you're letting go of these people in your life, hold on to that.

one person that actually share the same values as you are and it could be your family member. Maybe family member is too close but if you can confide in that one person, it could be a coach, it could be, I don't know, it could be a teacher, it could be a cousin that you're most comfortable with. Just speak out and speak up and for you as another person, just be

aware and vigilant to those around you. would say that that's the stigma that people are saying that mental health shouldn't be brought up. But right now I can see most of the podcasts. Okay, I don't understand the statistics, but a lot of podcasts out there. think right now we have what? 4 million podcasts released worldwide.

and a big chunk of that is on mental health. And so I want to say you have help. And because I'm in Asia too, now in Western and Asian countries, see not too sure about, guess in where you come from, Travis, therapy is very, it's it's, it's accepted. And for us in Asia, before at least this is a very taboo topic because

Therapy means you're not, why are you not, the question that often comes up is why are you not able to solve your own problems? Why do you have to tell people? And it's not right because you need help. People are wired to, we all are wired, we are social creatures. And that's why since ancient times, we have tribes, right? We thrive in a tribe.

And we crave for that connection. Now, the next thing that comes in, you should say, what type of connection or the tribe that you're cultivating, the nurturing part. And so I know this is strange. I'm veering, of course, from your question, but then I would say coming back, mental health.

reach out and as a person be aware and talk to the person next to you. I know it's simple it's easier said than done but trust me I oh yeah I forgot there's one more there was a video I saw online there's this a guy a boy he was 14 and then they were playing some online streaming

They were on an online streaming platform and then he got connected to a person. They started talking and then the 14 year old boy suddenly said, hey, you know, I don't know why, but somebody just before you came in and said, I should kill, you should kill yourself. And why, Right? And it's, it, it, you, I mean,

And that person actually stayed with him and started talking. They were just vibing and said, hey, don't kill yourself. And that moment, that moment actually, you know, saved his life. I know it might not be if he was in that mind, in that in that mindset or in the state of mind of, you know, suicidal ideation, they probably would already start thinking, I would take that as a confirmation from the universe. But no, you

That one moment or that one choice, that one word that you spoke, that person could be the very thing that determines whether they continue to be on this planet Earth or not. So be careful and just spread love and be compassionate to yourself and others.

Travis White (53:02)
Can I expand on that what you just said about the two kids talking? So I have a friend that... So I suffer from depression and anxiety. I have a friend that has some of the same stuff. And I've always kept in close contact with this buddy of mine. And I think it was probably about a year or two ago, I learned that he had some stuff come up.

Nicolette (53:06)
Yes.

Travis White (53:26)
some stuff that I didn't know about him, like dealing with suicide. And he, we got into just that tough conversation of speaking about it and he let it all out in the open. was like, dude, like, why didn't you let me know? Like, I thought we were closer than this. But now he's like my go-to person since we have that common ground of

Nicolette (53:32)
right.

Travis White (53:50)
I've suffered from suicide ideation as well. Now we have that common ground so every once in a while like we both just reach out to each other like how are you doing today? Is there anything I could do for you? And just having that one person to speak to does wonders.

Nicolette (54:08)
Yes, yes. Oh, I had chills. Yes, and you said it. You said it best, And you're doing it. And I want people here tuning in right now. If they have had thoughts such as that, Travis is here and probably could reach out to you. They could reach out to me as well.

And if they're not comfortable talking to strangers, then by all means, just talk to somebody.

Travis White (54:42)
And don't be afraid to speak up. I know for a fact that it's hard to be vulnerable. I've had to do it. But it's worth it. It's crucial, exactly.

Nicolette (54:49)
Yes, yes. It's crucial.

Travis White (54:57)
Now one kind of a few last little questions here. So you mentioned your coaching, coaching company. What? So what's next for Nick Nears and the holistic lifestyle brand?

Nicolette (55:11)
Okay, what's next? Thank you for asking. So right now, there is my coaching program. Obviously it's one-to-one and I have three-month program, six-month and a year program. If you want to give it a try, I also have one session, which is three hours, two hours, deep dive into hypnotherapy, subconscious reprogramming, understanding your current issues and how your old issues come up, these issues presented today.

and then one post integration coaching integration session as one. I also have digital products for those people who may be in the corporate world and saying, I don't have time for this yet, but I want to see what Nicolette has to offer that can go to that. But really next thing is I am actually talking. I've yeah, I spoke about this with a guest that I had on yesterday and I will be doing a group coaching.

I think it's better. I think it could be, there could be a better response in a way that people are not so, they're not so afraid because they see other people in the same group and they could sort of, you know, that the ice can be, they can form a connection as they'll bond over something similar. And it's better for me and it's better for them. So in a way that I let them, you know,

I facilitate and I but then after that I let them talk among themselves discuss and then who knows they probably could hit it off and become friends for a lifetime I don't know and that's group coaching number three would be my retreat I am planning a retreat that is next year I don't I'm not sure of the location just yet but maybe somewhere in Asia or in the States I'm not sure I'm not sure so

I'm very excited about this and right now the next thing is that having a monthly or a quarterly mastermind with some of the guests on my show talk about mental health, either that or spirituality because I'm very big on that as well and self-worth, personal development journey. So right now those are in the pipeline.

Travis White (57:27)
Sounds like you have some big plans. love it. Pushing forward to helping people. Always good stuff. And where can the listeners find you?

Nicolette (57:34)
Okay, yes. Hello, thank you for spending about an hour with me and Travis. If you are resonating with anything that I've mentioned, what Travis has just mentioned, if you want to find me, I am on, I'm everywhere on social media, but I'm mostly active on LinkedIn and Instagram, but you can find everything about me through my website. That is www.the.

Nick Nieras, that is my name, and Wholisticlifestyle.com so you can find my appearances on podcasts, my own podcasts, interviewing other experts, and also my offerings in terms of my intuitive work and my lifestyle, my coaching work. And I'm also available on social media, Instagram, TikTok, what else?

For my podcast, I'm on Spotify and I am on YouTube. So again, the name of my podcast is Your Worthless. Read that again, the juxtaposition of your very soul. I've had people coming to me saying, maybe you should rebrand because you're now, everywhere else is like holistic lifestyle, but now it's Your Worthless. I don't know. Maybe I will, but I kind of like the name because that was the very thing that got me into podcasting.

Travis White (58:46)
I like the name because to me it's memorable.

Nicolette (58:50)
Yeah, right. It's like,

mm-hmm, mm-hmm. then, I mean, and it's a natural transition from you feeling worthless. I bring people on to actually not talk about, you know, them feeling worthless and how they own their own hero's journey. And then I move into my own offerings, which is how do you move from from A to B and then reframe your beliefs and then become abundant in your own defined abundance in your own terms.

Travis White (59:20)
Is there anything that we have not discussed that you would like to bring up?

Nicolette (59:28)
Okay, I'm going to put one more out on my offering. So in terms of my offers, I have free hypnosis audio that is a guided meditation on four top challenges in the world right now. that is number one is wealth wiring, wealth mindset wiring, deep uninterrupted sleep, weight management, and also public speaking.

Travis White (59:34)
I'll go for it.

Nicolette (59:52)
So this is an element of my coaching where we go deep dive into hypnosis and you do this, you download this and then you'll get access. Download this first and listen to it for 21 days. And if you like it, this is where you can come and work with me on your coaching, whatever issues that you wanna overcome. And for the next part is the message that I wanna impart.

to the listeners today is that.

In the sense of self-worth, sure, I hope this has stirred something within your soul to take some action. And that action could be as small as writing down what you aspire to do and tomorrow probably thinking about how I could do it. Take that one step and plant that

that seed, have that faith, you know, the mustard seed, right? The parable. What you do now, trust me, you keep at it, it's gonna end up in the future. And it is just gonna be, I don't want to say, if you wanna become an expert on something, you have to put in the work.

and putting in the work means doing it, taking it as slow as you can, but not stopping. So if it's gonna take you five years, 10 years, then be it. But know that you're showing up authentically already. So yeah.

Travis White (1:01:31)
Thank you, Nick. Thank you so much for coming on the show and being your authentic self. ⁓

Nicolette (1:01:37)
Thank you so much for

letting me share my story on your platform and with your audience. Thank you so much, Travis.

Travis White (1:01:44)
It's been a pleasure speaking with you and thank you to all the listeners out there. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to listen to this podcast. You can find us on Instagram and YouTube at OvercomePod. The best thing you can do for us right now is to follow us on YouTube, Instagram, Spotify, and...

all the other major podcast platforms, share our stuff, like it, do whatever you can to get our word out there. Thanks again for listening. Until next time.

Nicolette (1:02:17)
Thank you, Travis.